New avenue of research (using a marriage example)

I came across this chart recently. I had made several correct predictions for this person earlier using my Nadi knowledge. But some interesting facets came out when I applied my strong significations methodology here that may suggest a new avenue for research on the role of the sub. I will put up 

I have given the Nadi significators under the heading "All" and my strong significators under the heading "Strong".

I will give the cuspal sublords as a separate table for ease of reference below:

Now the interesting bit.This native got married in the Ra-Ra period (it was a love marriage), and is now getting divorced in the Ra-Ve period. Ie for married in 2008 and getting divorced in 2019. 

Look at Rahu. As per traditional understanding of stellar theory, this native should NEVER have gotten married at all, isnt it? While there is a strong signification of 7 at the stellar level, the sublord completely negates marriage by showing 4 10 at strong levels. 10 is a marriage negative house belonging to the 1 6 10 grouping. 

So I thought, if this person would have asked me, "When will I get married?" just before the Rahu dasha started, I would have said clearly, "not for the next 18 years" (Rahu dasha length). (oddly, the Nadi system does not negate the marriage, but hints at its weakness). My system would say its a clear no, and I would have been wrong.

This led me to question the foundations of how we view KP astrology. It is repeatedly hammered into our brains that the Sub lord is most powerful, SUB decides, SUB speaks, etc. etc.

But in reality, I feel (and what KSK also says in some of his earliest works, if i recall correctly), that the SUB diverts results. In other words, neither is the sub more or less important than the stellar signification, but both are playing different roles.

Now Rahu is saying 7th house result will come. How will it come? through 4 and 10. For us 10 is relevant because it is this that is negating the possibility of marriage under the traditional understanding. 

Now I propose, that we need to see the CONTENTS of the 10th cusp, by examining the 10th CSL's stellar significations. We can see the 10th CSL is Ketu, which is in the star of Jupiter, and they signify 7th cusp very strongly. (Interestingly the 4th CSL is also Ketu, so do not want to repeat it here)

So the way I will interpret the Rahu dasha is this. 7th house results will come (as long as the 7th CSL signifies 2/7/11 at its stellar level, then marriage will happen). But the quality of the results will be bad since, the primary result is that of the 10th house which is a marriage negative house. In addition, one more thing that is noteworthy is that 10th house also shows government, official seal, etc. and hence suggests that divorce would happen.

This also explains the conundrum. Lets say a beggar has 10 11 in his chart. and Bill Gates has 10 11 in his chart. Now 10 11 for a beggar may mean getting Rs100, while 10 11 for Bill Gates would mean getting US$1bn. The quality of 10 11 will be gauged from the cuspal sublord of 10 11 and thus the contents there of.

So when would it have been a no marriage? When the Dasha lord had not signified 2/7/11 at its stellar level. Because a sub lord cannot give what is not promised, it can only show the quality of it.

Now look at Venus (the bhukti in which the divorce will happen). Note that Venus bhukti just started in March and matter precipitated immediately thereafter. Venus signifies 4 10 at the stellar level. Now here I propose, that we do not examine the 'contents' of the 4th and 10th house. Because stellar significations role is to only point us to what house to look at, not the quality or nature of those houses.  

There is another person's chart re child birth that I would like to study using the above insights and see if it its. Thats another blog post though. But this would indeed be a more detailed way to look at a chart, ie instead of looking at blanket denial, a more nuanced approach. Its validity will be proven only over a period of time as we apply it to more charts.

When will my land be sold?

A friend has some ancestral land on the edge of Mumbai that is on the market. They have been trying to sell it for quite some while and finally today I was asked a prashna.

The following is the chart and my significators:

Moon signifies houses 3 and 5 which is from the sale of property house group of 3 5 10. So question can be examined. Interestingly, the RPs contain Mars which is a primary karaka for land and property.

Some more interesting things. Since property is seen from the 4th cusp, look at the 4th CSL. It is Jupiter and in the Star of Me. Jupiter is a large planet and it is a large piece of land (>40 acres) that is to be sold. Jupiter is in the sign Scorpio that represents dirty, brackish water. The property is actually a marsh land, and underwater with mangroves on it.

The 10th CSL is Jupiter again, and it is in the star of a retrograde Mercury. Normally I would conclude that this property would never be sold, but because there are multiple planets in the star  of retrograde planets, we have to relax this rule and continue examining the chart.

Now I have to select the Antara. There are three antaras left in this Bhukti, Rahu, Jupiter, and Saturn.

The ongoing dasha is of Ketu. Ketu signifies 3/5 at the stellar level and 3 at the sub level. Indicating that property sale is possible. The 8 12 suggests that the sale will happen at a price that is much below the market rate (which fits given the situation of the land). 

In fact if you see almost every planet has 3/5/10 at stellar and sublevels. Indicating that property sale is imminent. The presence of 2/4/11 I interpreted as they will have to work hard to sell the property and its not going to be smooth.

The ongoing Bhukti is Mercury. Mercury is a fast moving planet and along with Moon appears in the RPs again support my confidence that the much delayed land sale will happen soon. Mercury too has 3 in stellar and 5 at sub levels.I selected the Jupiter antara for two reasons:

1) Ju appears in Ruling Planets, while Ra and Saturn do not, and

2) Jupiter is the only planet that is signifying the 10th house (at sub level). Otherwise only 3/5 houses out of 3 5 10 were represented by Dasha and Bhukti.

So my surmise is that the property sale will happen Aug 18, 2019 to Oct 4, 2019.

Lets see how it goes!

Ruling Planets, experiment: When will Chandrayaan 2 be launched

The launch of Chandryaan 2 was postponed at the last moment today (literally in the last hour). Better safe than sorry I always say! But it is natural that I got curious as to when the chandrayaan would be launched again. So again I decided to experiment with Ruling Planets.

This is the chart at the time of the prashna arising in my mind:

As one can see, of the ruling planets, all except Venus and Ketu are in the star of a retrograde planet. Therefore these must be discarded. I need to now look for alternates:

1) conjunct with existing RPs

2) aspecting lagna at RP time chart

3) In the lagna the the RP time chart.

RP lagna is empty and also doesnt receive aspects, so conditions 2 and 3 above are useless.

Of the existing RPs, Sun and Jupiter and not conjunct with anyone. Ke is conjunct with Saturn, and Mars is conjunct with Mercury. But both Saturn and Mercury are in the star of a retrograde planet. Therefore they cannot be considered. 

Venus is conjunct with Rahu and Rahu is in the star of Jupiter who is direct, and thus can be used.

So final RPs are Ke, Ve, Ra. 

Since the event is expected to occur in a months time (they have not announced it yet), I will have to see the transit of the Moon. Moon should transit Ve-Ra-Ke or Ve-Ke-Ra for the event to happen.

Venus owns two signs: Taurus and Libra. Taurus has no nakshatra owned by Ra or Ke and so that must be ignored. 

Libra has the nakshatra owned by Rahu. So Moon passing through Libra sign, Rahu star, and Ketu sub will indicate the date on which this event will happen.

This happens on August 7, 2019, and this is when Chandrayaan 2 will be launched!


Well I got this wrong.

The launch happened at 11:13:50 Munich time on July 22, 2019, when Moon was in Pisces (Ju sign), Saturn Nakshatra, Mercury sub, and Rahu sub-sub.

Oddly, these above grahas all appeared in the Ruling planets, but I had discarded them due to them being in star of retro planets. SHOULD THE RETRO RULE BE RE-EXAMINED? I will work out more example.

Other info:
Asc was in Virgo (Me), Mars Star, Saturn sub, and Saturn sub sub.

Sun was in Mo-Sa-Sa.

No marriage despite favourable dasha, transits explain!

This is a natal chart that I had seen several months ago.

Note phone number in the chart is not mine, its some random number that the software shows.So dont call!

The problem is that the native is unmarried and I am trying to figure out why! Look at the significators below for the reason of my confusion:

The native was in the dasha of Ketu from 2012 to 2019. If you see Ketu it signifies 7/11 at stellar and sub levels. Then why in the space of 7 years of its dasha did he remain unmarried?!

There is only one possibility (assuming that my system is not inherently flawed) and that is this:

Ketu is a dasha of 7 years. As such antaras are fairly short, the max being up to a year or so. I addition to this, there are 4 grahas (Me Mo Ju Ra) which do not allow marriage due to non signification of 2/7/11. These four grahas account for about 1300 days out of the total dasha period of 2555 days (7*365), that is more than 50%. 

In addition, these same planets come as antaras within even bhuktis of fruitful planets, thus further reducing the period in which the favourable transits can happen.The list for that is as follows:

Therefore, of the 2555 days of this dasha, (666+1300) 1966 days completely negate marriage. This leaves only about 589 days where DBA lords agree for marriage. However, these days are spread over seven years of the dasha reducing the chances that DBA lords + Sun and Moon satisfied the condition of transiting in the Star-Sub of marriage favourble grahas. Remember the D lord Ketu is a slow moving graha and thus is unlikely to shift stars very soon. 

What is all this leading to? It is my contention then that the because of this, there never came any point in the dasha when the transits which are necessary to actually bring the event across fell into place. 

I need better software to test this though. Will try to work something out.

When will I get married? A mistake re-analysed.

I  had analysed a prashna chart 3 years ago and while I predicted marriage, it never came to pass. This has bothered me for some time, and now that I've managed to come up with my own small twist on KP significations, I decided to test whether the new method of deriving significations explains my mistake or not. The chart and the Nadi significators that I used are put below:

A look at the Nadi significators will make it clear why my date calculation went incorrect. They are peppered with 2 7 11/ 1 6 10 12s and this made it difficult to pinpoint the date. In such cases, identifying the strong significators and separating them from the weak ones makes a huge difference. My significators are as follows:

First step is to see the 7th CSL, which is Mercury in this case. Me signifies 12 7 6 at both star and sub levels making it clear that wedding is not denied to the person (thanks to the 7th sig), but it will not be easy going, and delays and perhaps many last minute discomforts in the marriage are possible (6th and 12th signification). The 12th signification suggests that the person may move far away from residence post wedding as well.

The ongoing Dasha is Rahu. Rahu signifies the 7th house through the 7th aspect of Venus (which is in its own sign). THIS IS AN EXPERIMENTAL POINT. Because Venus is signifying marriage denial houses 1 and 6, and the marriage positive 7th only by aspect. But I surmise that the fact that 7th house is empty and Venus is in own star means it signifies 7th strongly enough. The presence of Venus in the Ruling Planets (as Moon sign lord) is reassuring as well. So this again suggests that marriage not denied, but its going to be a bumpy ride till the end!

Now why did the marriage not happen so far? The Bhuktis after the Q was asked were of Sun and Moon. Look at Sun, it signifies marriage negative 6 -12 at the stellar level and no 2/7/11, so marriage was not possible till Sept 1, 2017. 

Then look at Moon bhukti. Moon signifies 2/7/11 at the stellar level, but only marriage negative 6 - 12 at the sub level thus again denying marriage. So marriage was not possible till March 3, 2019.

Now the person is in Mars bhukti, which signifies 2-11 at stellar and 7 at sub levels making it plausible for marriage to happen in thus bhukti.

Why did marriage not happen in the antaras of Mars and Rahu then? There could be three reasons, 1) The presence of Saturn in the RPs suggest that there will be a delay. and/ or 2) The Asc is in a ubhaya rashi (Dhanu) which also suggests a delay, and/or 3) The transits did not fit.

I will need more data to conclude on point 1 and point 2. I do not have the time to verify point 3. 

Then there was the Jupiter antara from May 21, 2019 to July 12, 2019 (yesterday). Jupiter has no 2/7/11 at the stellar level and thus marriage was not possible then. Now there are antaras of Sa, Me, Ke, Ve, so marriage is possible during the period of July 12 2019 to Jan 29, 2020.

I tried to pinpoint the date by using transits. 

The TRANSIT EXPERIMENT:

The D-B is is Ra-Ma. Always move the slowest moving planets, and then the faster moving ones, to ensure that they are in a favourable star-sub during the period delineated by the DBA period of favourable planets. I also exclude any period when the DBA graha is in a favourable star-sub BUT is retrograde. I am just trying to be conservative.

The following planets are favourable, ie have a 2/7/11 signification at stellar and sub levels: Ma Me Ve Sa Ra Ke 

Ideally even planets with 2/7/11 signification at stellar levels should qualify as long as the sub is of planets that have 2/7/11 sig at the sub level as well. But as I said I am trying to be conservative.

ONE QUESTION THAT I HAVE: should I look at planets favourable for 2/7/11 or ONLY the 7th cusp, which is primary cusp for marriage? For now I have been agnostic, and if the marriage date differs from calculated then I can identify which houses were activated and thus refine my system.

After I identify the period when DBA planets are in favourable grahas, I also move Sun and Moon so that they are in favourable star-sub. So DBA+Su+Mo should satisfy transits for event to pass. This is my experiment anyway.

On November 21, 2019, the DBA planets are: Ra-Ma-Ke,

Ra is in Me-Ra-Ke

Ma is in Ve-Ra-Ra

Ke is in Su-Ve-Ve

Su is in Ma-Sa-Sa

Mo is in Su-Ve-Sa

The transit chart looks like this:

Lets see if marriage is fixed in November 2019 or maybe in December 2019!!!!

Will I get a job I have applied for?

Prashna asked by someone I know on whether he will get a job with the central government that he has applied for. The following are the chart details:

6th CSL is Moon and signifies the 10th house, suggesting that the question is indeed about an increase in reputation.  6th CSL signifies 5 9 as well which fits because he is looking for a change in some urgency.

It is important to see Moon's significations when looking at a prashna because it tells you that the person is actually asking the same question that he is thinking of (since Moon mind/ mati).  Interestingly the ongoing DBA is is Sa-Sa-Me, and Sa is the karaka for a job.

So, we can go ahead and examine this chart. Look at significations of Sa and Me. It signifies 5 8 9 12 at various levels. These are all houses which negate a job, or create problems in a job. 5th is Maaraka for 6th, 9th is maaraka for 10th, and 8 and 12 are generally duh-sthanas. 

In fact if you look around and see, all planets very clearly signify job negative houses of 5 8 9 12. So unfortunately, I had to tell him that he will NOT get that job. Given that I had arrived at significations using my own small twist on Krishnamurti Paddhati, I asked him to tell me if I was wrong and he heard that he DID get the job, because that will allow me to tweak my significators. But honestly, it looks difficult.

One thing that must have stood out about this stellar system is that the answer is VERY CLEAR. There is no hemming and hawing, about this being positive but that being negative. The answer as it stands is a clear NO.

Will India win todays's match?

So, as I sat at my computer today, I heard several moans of people complaining about how badly Indian team was doing at the semis, so I decided to check if we would win today.

I cast the following chart for the TIME this question came to my mind:

We know that 6th is the house of victory.  Lets first check whether it exists in the parcel of the 6th house.

6th CSL is Sun. What houses does Sun signify?

Sun is untenanted so it signifies the 9th house where it is posited. Sun owns 11th house of desire fulfillment, which is empty. So Sun strongly signifies 9 11.

Sun is  in Jupiter star, at this point, I must highlight that while my system ignores planetary retrogression in natal (birth) charts, they do not ignore this in prashna charts like the one above.

Since the primary cusp for victory is posited in the star owned by a retrograde planet, the answer is clearly in the negative to the question asked.

BUT, in his second book (Jyotish Vedh), Shahasane says that in case there are two or more planets in the star of retrograde planets then we should relax this rule and look at the DBA.

Dasha and Bhukti is of Rahu, and Antara of Mercury.

Rahu does not have stellar strength, so it signifies no houses at its own level. Rahu is in the star of Jupiter. Jupiter is 9. It signifies 3rd by its 7th aspect. Rahu is in the sub of Saturn. Saturn is in its own Sub so it has stellar strength. Saturn is in 11th and owns 12 and 1. Saturn is in the star of Venus. Venus is in 4 and owns 3, 4 and 8.

So the stellar sig of Rahu are: 9,3,11,12, 1
The sub sig of Rahu are:11, 12, 3, 4, 8


Lets look at Mercury. Mercury has no stellar strength. It is  in the star of Saturn which we knowsignies 11, 12, 1. Me is in the sub of Venus. Venus has no stellar strength. Ve is in the star of Rahu.  Rahu is in 5, signifies 11,12,1 (via Mercury its sign lord), 5 via Sun conjunction, 8 and 1 via aspect.

So Mercury is signifying 11, 12, 1 via stellar sig.
Sub sig: 11 12 1 5 8.

While there is 11 in both Rahu and Mercury at both Stellar and Sub levels, There is also 12 (house of loss) and 4 8 12 sub levels.


This indicates it will be a close match, but unfortunately the result will not be in India's favour. Lets see what happens!









India will not win today's match.